S4:E4 The sound of music… Shain Shapiro in conversation with Adrian Ellis

Guest

Shain Shapiro

In conversation with

Adrian Ellis


Our host Adrian Ellis speaks with Shain Shapiro, one of the world’s leading music policy thinkers and advocates, founder of Sound Diplomacy, director of the Center for Music Ecosystems, and author of This Must be the Place: How Music Can Make Your City Better.

Date of Recording

1 February 2024

Date of Publication

11 April 2024

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Shain Shapiro: Music is this incredibly unifying force that is chameleonic. The more that we understand it, the more pathways to, you know, find ways to make places better through it.

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Adrian Ellis: Hello and welcome to The Three Bells. This podcast is one of the series brought to you by AEA Consulting for the Global Cultural Districts Network, in which we explore what's happening around the world on the intersections of cultural and urban life. The series and supporting materials can be found at www.thethreebells.net.

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I'm Adrian Ellis, the chair of GCDN, and the director of AEA Consulting, and I'm thrilled to have on the podcast this week, Shain Shapiro.

Shain, whom I've known for some years and have watched the progression of his career with admiration. Shain currently leads the non-profit Center for Music Ecosystems, but he's probably as well known for founding and developing the consultancy Sound Diplomacy, and in both contexts has been a champion of music as a significant contributor to a vibrant cultural ecology and a vibrant urban ecology. Shain, thank you for coming to the podcast.

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Shain Shapiro: Thank you, Adrian. And the admiration is mutual, trust me on that.



About Our Guests

Shain Shapiro  is a globally recognised thought leader at the convergence of music, culture and urban policy. This is showcased in his debut book, This Must Be The Place: How Music Can Make Your City Better. Shain has defined a new way to think about the value of music in cities and places and through it, influenced over 120 cities and places to invest in music and culture as founder and executive chairman of Sound Diplomacy and founder and executive director of the not-for-profit global Center for Music Ecosystems.

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